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... 1-2 Hot Swapping ...1-3 Hardware Monitoring 1-3 OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components 2-1 OmniSwitch 6850-24L ...2-3 OmniSwitch 6850-48L ...2-7 OmniSwitch 6850-P24L 2-10 OmniSwitch 6850-P48L 2-14 OmniSwitch 6850-U24X 2-18 OmniSwitch 6850-24 ...2-22 OmniSwitch 6850-48 ...2-26 OmniSwitch 6850-24X 2-30 OmniSwitch 6850-48X 2-34 OmniSwitch 6850-P24 2-37 OmniSwitch 6850-P48 2-41 OmniSwitch 6850-P24X 2-45 OmniSwitch 6850-P48X 2-49 Status LEDs ...2-53 OmniSwitch...
... 1-2 Hot Swapping ...1-3 Hardware Monitoring 1-3 OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components 2-1 OmniSwitch 6850-24L ...2-3 OmniSwitch 6850-48L ...2-7 OmniSwitch 6850-P24L 2-10 OmniSwitch 6850-P48L 2-14 OmniSwitch 6850-U24X 2-18 OmniSwitch 6850-24 ...2-22 OmniSwitch 6850-48 ...2-26 OmniSwitch 6850-24X 2-30 OmniSwitch 6850-48X 2-34 OmniSwitch 6850-P24 2-37 OmniSwitch 6850-P48 2-41 OmniSwitch 6850-P24X 2-45 OmniSwitch 6850-P48X 2-49 Status LEDs ...2-53 OmniSwitch...
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... Specifications 3-10 OmniSwitch 6850E-P24X 3-11 OmniSwitch 6850E-P24X Rear Panel 3-12 OS6850E-P24X Specifications 3-13 OmniSwitch 6850E-48 3-14 OmniSwitch 6850E-48 Rear Panel 3-15 OS6850E-48 Specifications 3-16 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 RJ-45 Pinout 2-70 10/100/1000 Mbps Power over Ethernet Port - RJ-45 Pinout 2-70 RJ...
... Specifications 3-10 OmniSwitch 6850E-P24X 3-11 OmniSwitch 6850E-P24X Rear Panel 3-12 OS6850E-P24X Specifications 3-13 OmniSwitch 6850E-48 3-14 OmniSwitch 6850E-48 Rear Panel 3-15 OS6850E-48 Specifications 3-16 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 RJ-45 Pinout 2-70 10/100/1000 Mbps Power over Ethernet Port - RJ-45 Pinout 2-70 RJ...
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Supported Platforms This information in this guide applies to the following products: • OmniSwitch 6850-24/24L/P24/P24L/24X/P24X • OmniSwitch 6850-48/48L/P48/P48L/48X/P48X • OmniSwitch 6850-U24X • OmniSwitch 6850E-24/P24/24X/P24X • OmniSwitch 6850E-48/P48/48X/P48X • OmniSwitch 6850E-U24X OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page ix About This Guide This OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide describes your switch hardware components and basic switch hardware procedures.
Supported Platforms This information in this guide applies to the following products: • OmniSwitch 6850-24/24L/P24/P24L/24X/P24X • OmniSwitch 6850-48/48L/P48/P48L/48X/P48X • OmniSwitch 6850-U24X • OmniSwitch 6850E-24/P24/24X/P24X • OmniSwitch 6850E-48/P48/48X/P48X • OmniSwitch 6850E-U24X OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page ix About This Guide This OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide describes your switch hardware components and basic switch hardware procedures.
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...; OmniSwitch 6850-24L (OS6850-24L) • OmniSwitch 6850-48L (OS6850-48L) • OmniSwitch 6850-P24L (OS6850-P24L) • OmniSwitch 6850-P48L (OS6850-P48L) • OmniSwitch 6850-U24X (OS6850-U24X) • OmniSwitch 6850-24 (OS6850-24) • OmniSwitch 6850-48 (OS6850-48) • OmniSwitch 6850-24X (OS6850-24X) • OmniSwitch 6850-48X (OS6850-48X) • OmniSwitch 6850-P24 (OS6850-P24) • OmniSwitch 6850-P48 (OS6850-P48) • OmniSwitch 6850-P24X (OS6850-P24X) • OmniSwitch 6850-P48X (OS6850-P48X) 24...
...; OmniSwitch 6850-24L (OS6850-24L) • OmniSwitch 6850-48L (OS6850-48L) • OmniSwitch 6850-P24L (OS6850-P24L) • OmniSwitch 6850-P48L (OS6850-P48L) • OmniSwitch 6850-U24X (OS6850-U24X) • OmniSwitch 6850-24 (OS6850-24) • OmniSwitch 6850-48 (OS6850-48) • OmniSwitch 6850-24X (OS6850-24X) • OmniSwitch 6850-48X (OS6850-48X) • OmniSwitch 6850-P24 (OS6850-P24) • OmniSwitch 6850-P48 (OS6850-P48) • OmniSwitch 6850-P24X (OS6850-P24X) • OmniSwitch 6850-P48X (OS6850-P48X) 24...
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... information, including steps for console connections. Status and Slot Indicator LEDs For detailed information on the chassis rear panel, refer to as "preferred fiber." OmniSwitch 6850-48L USB OK PRI PWR BPS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27...-X high- USB Port High speed USB port, which can be used for quick upgrades. 10/100Mbps and 10/100/1000 Mbps The OS6850-48L provides 44 fixed 10/100BaseT (5-48) and 4 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT combo (1-4). This female RJ-45 connector provides a DTE console connection. For detailed LED descriptions, refer to...
... information, including steps for console connections. Status and Slot Indicator LEDs For detailed information on the chassis rear panel, refer to as "preferred fiber." OmniSwitch 6850-48L USB OK PRI PWR BPS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27...-X high- USB Port High speed USB port, which can be used for quick upgrades. 10/100Mbps and 10/100/1000 Mbps The OS6850-48L provides 44 fixed 10/100BaseT (5-48) and 4 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT combo (1-4). This female RJ-45 connector provides a DTE console connection. For detailed LED descriptions, refer to...
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... Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-48L OS6850-48L Specifications Total unshared 10/100Base-T 44 per switch (5-48) Total shared 10/100/1000Base-T 4 combo per switch (1-4) Total combo SFP connectors per 4 switch Total 10/100Base-T per stack 352 (stack ...or shielded twisted-pair (STP), Category 5, 100 ohm 1000BaseT: unshielded twisted-pair (UTP), Category 5e Maximum cable distance (RJ-45) 100 meters OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-9 Chassis Width (rack-mount flanges not included) 17.5 inches Height 1.73 inches Height (rack units) 1...
... Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-48L OS6850-48L Specifications Total unshared 10/100Base-T 44 per switch (5-48) Total shared 10/100/1000Base-T 4 combo per switch (1-4) Total combo SFP connectors per 4 switch Total 10/100Base-T per stack 352 (stack ...or shielded twisted-pair (STP), Category 5, 100 ohm 1000BaseT: unshielded twisted-pair (UTP), Category 5e Maximum cable distance (RJ-45) 100 meters OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-9 Chassis Width (rack-mount flanges not included) 17.5 inches Height 1.73 inches Height (rack units) 1...
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...speed connections. These are used for configuring combo port settings. Refer to as "preferred fiber." OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-P48L Refer to page 2-53. Console Port The OS6850-P48L front panel provides one RJ-45 port for 1000Base-X high- For detailed LED descriptions, refer...29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 Console 1 2 3 4 CLASS 1 LASER PRODUCT Combo SFP The OS6850-P48L provides four combo SFP connectors for console connections. Status and Slot Indicator LEDs For detailed information on the...
...speed connections. These are used for configuring combo port settings. Refer to as "preferred fiber." OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-P48L Refer to page 2-53. Console Port The OS6850-P48L front panel provides one RJ-45 port for 1000Base-X high- For detailed LED descriptions, refer...29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 Console 1 2 3 4 CLASS 1 LASER PRODUCT Combo SFP The OS6850-P48L provides four combo SFP connectors for console connections. Status and Slot Indicator LEDs For detailed information on the...
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... Points, Internet cameras, and other devices requiring power over Ethernet page 2-16 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 OmniSwitch 6850-P48L OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-P48L Specifications Total unshared 10/100Base-T 44 PoE per switch (5-48) Total shared 10/100/1000Base-T 4 combo PoE per switch (1-4) Total combo 1000Base...
... Points, Internet cameras, and other devices requiring power over Ethernet page 2-16 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 OmniSwitch 6850-P48L OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-P48L Specifications Total unshared 10/100Base-T 44 PoE per switch (5-48) Total shared 10/100/1000Base-T 4 combo PoE per switch (1-4) Total combo 1000Base...
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OmniSwitch 6850-48 OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-48 The OmniSwitch 6850-48 is a stackable edge/workgroup switch offering 44 unshared 10/100/1000Base-T, as well as four combo individually configurable to 10/100/1000Base-T or 1000Base-X high speed connections. The front panel of the OS6850-48 chassis contains the following major components: • System status...
OmniSwitch 6850-48 OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-48 The OmniSwitch 6850-48 is a stackable edge/workgroup switch offering 44 unshared 10/100/1000Base-T, as well as four combo individually configurable to 10/100/1000Base-T or 1000Base-X high speed connections. The front panel of the OS6850-48 chassis contains the following major components: • System status...
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... are used by network administrators for quick upgrades. 10/100/1000Mbps The OS6850-48 provides 44 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT (5-48) and 4 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT combo (1-4). OmniSwitch 6850-48 Front Panel OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-27 For information on OS6850-48 status and slot indicator LEDs, refer to page 2-53. OmniSwitch...
... are used by network administrators for quick upgrades. 10/100/1000Mbps The OS6850-48 provides 44 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT (5-48) and 4 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT combo (1-4). OmniSwitch 6850-48 Front Panel OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-27 For information on OS6850-48 status and slot indicator LEDs, refer to page 2-53. OmniSwitch...
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...), Category 5, 100 ohm 1000BaseT: unshielded twisted-pair (UTP), Category 5e page 2-28 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 OmniSwitch 6850-48 OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-48 Specifications Total unshared 10/100/ 44 1000Base-T per switch (5-48) Total shared 10/100/1000Base-T 4 combo per switch (1-4) Total combo SFP connectors per 4 switch...
...), Category 5, 100 ohm 1000BaseT: unshielded twisted-pair (UTP), Category 5e page 2-28 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 OmniSwitch 6850-48 OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-48 Specifications Total unshared 10/100/ 44 1000Base-T per switch (5-48) Total shared 10/100/1000Base-T 4 combo per switch (1-4) Total combo SFP connectors per 4 switch...
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OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-48 Specifications Maximum cable distance (RJ-45) 100 meters OmniSwitch 6850-48 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-29
OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-48 Specifications Maximum cable distance (RJ-45) 100 meters OmniSwitch 6850-48 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-29
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OmniSwitch 6850-48X OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-48X The OmniSwitch 6850-48X is a stackable edge/workgroup switch offering 48 unshared 10/100/1000Base T and two (2) 10 Gigabit XFP connectors. The front panel of the OS6850-48X chassis contains the following major components: • System status and slot indicator LEDs • (48) unshared 10/100/1000Base-T • (2) 10 Gigabit XFP connectors • Console port (RJ-45) • USB port page 2-34 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011
OmniSwitch 6850-48X OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OmniSwitch 6850-48X The OmniSwitch 6850-48X is a stackable edge/workgroup switch offering 48 unshared 10/100/1000Base T and two (2) 10 Gigabit XFP connectors. The front panel of the OS6850-48X chassis contains the following major components: • System status and slot indicator LEDs • (48) unshared 10/100/1000Base-T • (2) 10 Gigabit XFP connectors • Console port (RJ-45) • USB port page 2-34 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011
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... Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-35 This female RJ-45 connector provides a DTE console connection. For information on the OS6850-48X's status and slot indicator LEDs, refer to page 2-53. OmniSwitch 6850-48X USB OK PRI PWR BPS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ...43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 Console 49 50 CLASS 1 LASER PRODUCT Console Port The front panel provides one RJ45 port for 10 Gbps Small Form Factor Pluggable (XFP) transceivers. 10/100/1000Mbps The OS6850-48X provides 48 fixed 10/ 100/1000BaseT non-combo (1-48). XFP The OS6850-48X front panel provides ...
... Hardware Users Guide June 2011 page 2-35 This female RJ-45 connector provides a DTE console connection. For information on the OS6850-48X's status and slot indicator LEDs, refer to page 2-53. OmniSwitch 6850-48X USB OK PRI PWR BPS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ...43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 Console 49 50 CLASS 1 LASER PRODUCT Console Port The front panel provides one RJ45 port for 10 Gbps Small Form Factor Pluggable (XFP) transceivers. 10/100/1000Mbps The OS6850-48X provides 48 fixed 10/ 100/1000BaseT non-combo (1-48). XFP The OS6850-48X front panel provides ...
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OmniSwitch 6850-48X OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-48X Specifications Total unshared 10/100/ 1000Base-T per switch (1-48) Total XFP Connectors (49-50) Total 10/100/1000Base-T per stack Power Flash memory size RAM memory size Overall Width (rack-mount flanges included) Chassis ... rate (RJ-45) Data rate (SFP) Data rate (XFP) Maximum frame size Connections supported Cable supported (RJ-45) Maximum cable distance (RJ-45) RJ-45 48 2 384 (stack of eight switches) 126/120W (AC/DC) power supply 64 MB 256 MB SDRAM 19 inches, approx. 17.5 inches 1.73 inches 1 RU 10...
OmniSwitch 6850-48X OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components OS6850-48X Specifications Total unshared 10/100/ 1000Base-T per switch (1-48) Total XFP Connectors (49-50) Total 10/100/1000Base-T per stack Power Flash memory size RAM memory size Overall Width (rack-mount flanges included) Chassis ... rate (RJ-45) Data rate (SFP) Data rate (XFP) Maximum frame size Connections supported Cable supported (RJ-45) Maximum cable distance (RJ-45) RJ-45 48 2 384 (stack of eight switches) 126/120W (AC/DC) power supply 64 MB 256 MB SDRAM 19 inches, approx. 17.5 inches 1.73 inches 1 RU 10...
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... 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 Console 1 2 3 4 CLASS 1 LASER PRODUCT Console Port The OS6850-P48 front panel provides one RJ-45 port for 1000Base-X high-speed connections. Combo SFP The... by network administrators for configuring combo port settings. 10/100/1000Mbps PoE The OS6850-P48 provides 44 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT non-combo PoE (5-48) and 4 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT combo PoE (1-4). OmniSwitch 6850-P48 Front Panel page 2-42 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 For detailed LED descriptions, refer to...
... 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 Console 1 2 3 4 CLASS 1 LASER PRODUCT Console Port The OS6850-P48 front panel provides one RJ-45 port for 1000Base-X high-speed connections. Combo SFP The... by network administrators for configuring combo port settings. 10/100/1000Mbps PoE The OS6850-P48 provides 44 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT non-combo PoE (5-48) and 4 fixed 10/100/1000BaseT combo PoE (1-4). OmniSwitch 6850-P48 Front Panel page 2-42 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 For detailed LED descriptions, refer to...
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... to page 2-57. 3 7 3 8 3 9 4 0 4 1 4 2 4 3 4 4 4 5 4 6 4 7 48 2 5 2 6 2 7 2 8 2 9 3 0 3 1 3 2 3 3 3 4 3 5 3 6 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 2 3 2 4 OK PRI PWR BPS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 6850-48 OmniSwitch USB 4 CLASS11 LASER2PRODUC3T } Front Recommended 6 inches minimum at front of chassis for adequate chassis airflow and access to components at the rear... sides for access to LEDs and network cables. Mounting the Switch Mounting the Switch OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components Note. Airflow Considerations Be sure that your switch is not...
... to page 2-57. 3 7 3 8 3 9 4 0 4 1 4 2 4 3 4 4 4 5 4 6 4 7 48 2 5 2 6 2 7 2 8 2 9 3 0 3 1 3 2 3 3 3 4 3 5 3 6 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 2 3 2 4 OK PRI PWR BPS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 6850-48 OmniSwitch USB 4 CLASS11 LASER2PRODUC3T } Front Recommended 6 inches minimum at front of chassis for adequate chassis airflow and access to components at the rear... sides for access to LEDs and network cables. Mounting the Switch Mounting the Switch OmniSwitch 6850 Series Chassis and Hardware Components Note. Airflow Considerations Be sure that your switch is not...
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... or 10 Gigabit uplink, and blank cover panels are not installed over empty bays at all OmniSwitch 6850 Series switches, except for OmniSwitch 6850-24, OmniSwitch 6850-P24, OmniSwitch 6850-48, and OmniSwitch 6850-P48). Instead, a portion of the airflow is not equipped with your switch and are missing, ...all times. These cover panels play an important role in through the fan exhaust vents (see page 2-57). page 2-58 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 They also protect the switch's processor board and other sensitive internal switch components from the air...
... or 10 Gigabit uplink, and blank cover panels are not installed over empty bays at all OmniSwitch 6850 Series switches, except for OmniSwitch 6850-24, OmniSwitch 6850-P24, OmniSwitch 6850-48, and OmniSwitch 6850-P48). Instead, a portion of the airflow is not equipped with your switch and are missing, ...all times. These cover panels play an important role in through the fan exhaust vents (see page 2-57). page 2-58 OmniSwitch 6850/6850E Series Hardware Users Guide June 2011 They also protect the switch's processor board and other sensitive internal switch components from the air...
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..., 3-10, 3-13 OS6850-24 see OmniSwitch 6850-24 OS6850-24L see OmniSwitch 6850-24L OS6850-24X see OmniSwitch 6850-24X OS6850-48 see OmniSwitch 6850-48 OS6850-48L see OmniSwitch 6850-48L OS6850-48X see OmniSwitch 6850-48X OS6850-P24 see OmniSwitch 6850-P24 OS6850-P24L see OmniSwitch 6850-P24L OS6850-P48 see OmniSwitch 6850-P48 OS6850-P48L see OmniSwitch 6850-P48L OS6850-P48X see OmniSwitch 6850-P48X OS6850-U24X see OmniSwitch 6850-U24X P pass-through...
..., 3-10, 3-13 OS6850-24 see OmniSwitch 6850-24 OS6850-24L see OmniSwitch 6850-24L OS6850-24X see OmniSwitch 6850-24X OS6850-48 see OmniSwitch 6850-48 OS6850-48L see OmniSwitch 6850-48L OS6850-48X see OmniSwitch 6850-48X OS6850-P24 see OmniSwitch 6850-P24 OS6850-P24L see OmniSwitch 6850-P24L OS6850-P48 see OmniSwitch 6850-P48 OS6850-P48L see OmniSwitch 6850-P48L OS6850-P48X see OmniSwitch 6850-P48X OS6850-U24X see OmniSwitch 6850-U24X P pass-through...
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... port 2-68, 2-71, 3-32, 3-35 OmniSwitch 6850-24 2-24, 3-4 OmniSwitch 6850-24L 2-5 OmniSwitch 6850-24X 2-32 OmniSwitch 6850-48 2-28, 3-16 OmniSwitch 6850-48L 2-9 OmniSwitch 6850-48X 2-36 OmniSwitch 6850-P24 2-39, 3-7 OmniSwitch 6850-P24L 2-12 OmniSwitch 6850-P24X 2-47 OmniSwitch 6850-P48 2-43, 3-19, 3-22, 3-25, 3-28 OmniSwitch 6850-P48L 2-16 OmniSwitch 6850-P48X 2-51 OmniSwitch 6850-U24X 2-20, 3-10, 3-13 pinouts 2-70...
... port 2-68, 2-71, 3-32, 3-35 OmniSwitch 6850-24 2-24, 3-4 OmniSwitch 6850-24L 2-5 OmniSwitch 6850-24X 2-32 OmniSwitch 6850-48 2-28, 3-16 OmniSwitch 6850-48L 2-9 OmniSwitch 6850-48X 2-36 OmniSwitch 6850-P24 2-39, 3-7 OmniSwitch 6850-P24L 2-12 OmniSwitch 6850-P24X 2-47 OmniSwitch 6850-P48 2-43, 3-19, 3-22, 3-25, 3-28 OmniSwitch 6850-P48L 2-16 OmniSwitch 6850-P48X 2-51 OmniSwitch 6850-U24X 2-20, 3-10, 3-13 pinouts 2-70...